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All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let
himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in
the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was
Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such questions. He
should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity
politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the
pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage.
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an
invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let
himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in
the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was
Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such questions. He
should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity
politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the
pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it plus
the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the impression that
Trump merely pointed out that one of her father was black and her
mother was Indian and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much
more than black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly
reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the time she
turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out? This
sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob going ballistic over >something reasonable that Trump said as they try to make something
racist out of it.
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in
the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was
Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such questions. He should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the
pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamal
a-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harr
is-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-conventi
on/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it plus
the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the impression that
Trump merely pointed out that one of her father was black and her
mother was Indian and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much
more than black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly
reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the time she
turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out?
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an >invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let
himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in
the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was Willie >Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such questions. He
should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity
politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the
pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage.
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an
invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let
himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in
the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was
Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such questions. He
should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity
politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the
pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it plus
the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the impression that
Trump merely pointed out that one of her father was black and her
mother was Indian and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much
more than black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly
reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the time she
turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out? This
sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob going ballistic over >something reasonable that Trump said as they try to make something
racist out of it.
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an
invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let
himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in
the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was
Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such questions. He
should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity
politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the
pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it plus
the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the impression that
Trump merely pointed out that one of her father was black and her
mother was Indian and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much
more than black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly
reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the time she
turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out? This
sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob going ballistic over >something reasonable that Trump said as they try to make something
racist out of it.
Rhino wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an
invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let
himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in
the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was
Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such questions. He
should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity
politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the
pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it plus
the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the impression that
Trump merely pointed out that one of her father was black and her
mother was Indian and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much
more than black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly
reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the time she
turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out? This
sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob going ballistic over
something reasonable that Trump said as they try to make something
racist out of it.
It's still weird though. :-?
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:39:06 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an
invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let
himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in
the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was
Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such questions. He
should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity
politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the
pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it plus
the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the impression that
Trump merely pointed out that one of her father was black and her
mother was Indian and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much
more than black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly
reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the time she
turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out? This
sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob going ballistic over
something reasonable that Trump said as they try to make something
racist out of it.
The offense is in his inartfull answer to the question. That people
emphasize one aspect of their makeup at different times is normal but
Trump made it seem like Kamala pretended to only be Indian until such
time as she needed to pretend to be only of Black heritage.
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:39:06 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an
invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let >>>> himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in >>>> the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was
Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such questions. He >>>> should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity
politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the
pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it plus
the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the impression that
Trump merely pointed out that one of her father was black and her
mother was Indian and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much
more than black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly
reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the time she
turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out? This
sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob going ballistic over
something reasonable that Trump said as they try to make something
racist out of it.
The offense is in his inartfull answer to the question. That people
emphasize one aspect of their makeup at different times is normal but
Trump made it seem like Kamala pretended to only be Indian until such
time as she needed to pretend to be only of Black heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives aren't capitalized unless they start a sentence.
On 8/1/2024 4:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> >> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:39:06 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an >>>>> invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let >>>>> himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in >>>>> the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was >>>>> Willie Brown; she's black.)I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it plus
He expected the question because he always invites such questions. He >>>>> should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity >>>>> politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the
pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage. >>>>
the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the impression that >>>> Trump merely pointed out that one of her father was black and her
mother was Indian and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much
more than black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly
reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the time she
turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out? This
sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob going ballistic over
something reasonable that Trump said as they try to make something
racist out of it.
The offense is in his inartfull answer to the question. That people
emphasize one aspect of their makeup at different times is normal but
Trump made it seem like Kamala pretended to only be Indian until such
time as she needed to pretend to be only of Black heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives aren't capitalized >> unless they start a sentence.
"The adjective Freudian is useful for describing something that's
influenced by or similar to the theories of German psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud."
On Aug 1, 2024 at 3:07:31 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 4:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:39:06 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an >>>>>> invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let >>>>>> himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black inI haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it plus >>>>> the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the impression that >>>>> Trump merely pointed out that one of her father was black and her
the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was >>>>>> Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such questions. He
should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity >>>>>> politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the >>>>>> pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage. >>>>>
mother was Indian and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much >>>>> more than black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly
reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the time she >>>>> turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out? This >>>>> sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob going ballistic over >>>>> something reasonable that Trump said as they try to make something >>>>> racist out of it.
The offense is in his inartfull answer to the question. That people
emphasize one aspect of their makeup at different times is normal but >>>> Trump made it seem like Kamala pretended to only be Indian until such >>>> time as she needed to pretend to be only of Black heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives aren't capitalized
unless they start a sentence.
"The adjective Freudian is useful for describing something that's
influenced by or similar to the theories of German psychoanalyst Sigmund
Freud."
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage of a guy named Black. Thanks for the clarification.
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let
himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in
the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such questions. He
should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity
politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the
pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment.
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an
invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let
himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in
the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was
Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such questions. He
should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity
politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the
pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it plus
the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the impression that
Trump merely pointed out that one of her father was black and her
mother was Indian and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much
more than black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly
reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the time she
turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out? This
sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob going ballistic over something reasonable that Trump said as they try to make something
racist out of it.
On 8/1/2024 6:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 3:07:31 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 4:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:39:06 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted anI haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it plus >>>>>> the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the impression that
invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let
himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in
the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was >>>>>>> Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such questions. He
should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity >>>>>>> politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the >>>>>>> pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism. >>>>>>>
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage. >>>>>>
Trump merely pointed out that one of her father was black and her >>>>>> mother was Indian and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much >>>>>> more than black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly
reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the time she >>>>>> turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out? This >>>>>> sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob going ballistic over >>>>>> something reasonable that Trump said as they try to make something >>>>>> racist out of it.
The offense is in his inartfull answer to the question. That people >>>>> emphasize one aspect of their makeup at different times is normal but >>>>> Trump made it seem like Kamala pretended to only be Indian until such >>>>> time as she needed to pretend to be only of Black heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives aren't capitalized
unless they start a sentence.
"The adjective Freudian is useful for describing something that's
influenced by or similar to the theories of German psychoanalyst Sigmund >>> Freud."
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage of a guy named
Black. Thanks for the clarification.
The clarification was that adjectives (anywhere) may be capitalized...
On Aug 1, 2024 at 4:04:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 8/1/2024 6:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 3:07:31 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 8/1/2024 4:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:39:06 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He
accepted an invitation to speak to black journalists at their
convention and let himself get baiting into insulting Kamala
for not having been black in the past. (Again, her political
mentor in California politics was Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such
questions. He should have been prepared with a statement
against racial-identity politics. Pretty much all he had to
talk about was how good the pre-COVID economy was and very
low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear
criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local
coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions
to it plus the second article you've cited, but I'm left with
the impression that Trump merely pointed out that one of her
father was black and her mother was Indian and that she'd
always "identified" as Indian much more than black UNTIL
seeking office. That would be perfectly reasonable as her
father apparently disappeared about the time she turned 5 and
her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that
out? This sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob
going ballistic over something reasonable that Trump said as
they try to make something racist out of it.
The offense is in his inartfull answer to the question. That
people emphasize one aspect of their makeup at different times
is normal but Trump made it seem like Kamala pretended to only
be Indian until such time as she needed to pretend to be only
of Black heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives
aren't capitalized unless they start a sentence.
"The adjective Freudian is useful for describing something that's
influenced by or similar to the theories of German psychoanalyst
Sigmund Freud."
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage of a
guy named Black. Thanks for the clarification.
The clarification was that adjectives (anywhere) may beNope, not properly. If the following sentence was turned into the
capitalized...
teacher on a paper testing basic grammar, it'd be marked wrong:
"The Sick dog limped over to its Sad owner and settled down onto a
Soft pillow."
Aug 1, 2024 at 11:02:14 AM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an >>invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let >>himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in
the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was Willie >>Brown; she's black.)
The media has been going overboard lately to make sure we know how racist it >is to call Kamala a "DEI hire",
but it was Joe Biden himself who literally told us he hired her for
DEI reasons:
. . .
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC) Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an >>>invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let >>>himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in >>>the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was
Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such questions. He >>>should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity >>>politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the
pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it plus
the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the impression that >>Trump merely pointed out that one of her father was black and her
mother was Indian and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much
more than black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly
reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the time she
turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out?
DEMOCRATS: We're going to make Kamala's race one of the cornerstones of
our campaign, talking about it incessantly, even where it's not
relevant, but Republicans better never comment on it or they're racist!
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>wrote:
unless they start a sentence.On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:39:06 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an
invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let
himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in >>>> the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was
Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such questions. He
should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity
politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the
pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it plus
the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the impression that
Trump merely pointed out that one of her father was black and her
mother was Indian and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much
more than black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly
reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the time she
turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out? This
sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob going ballistic over
something reasonable that Trump said as they try to make something
racist out of it.
The offense is in his inartfull answer to the question. That people
emphasize one aspect of their makeup at different times is normal but
Trump made it seem like Kamala pretended to only be Indian until such
time as she needed to pretend to be only of Black heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives aren't capitalized
On Aug 1, 2024 at 11:02:14 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an
invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let
himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in
the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was Willie
Brown; she's black.)
The media has been going overboard lately to make sure we know how racist it is to call Kamala a "DEI hire", but it was Joe Biden himself who literally told us he hired her for DEI reasons:
"To me, the values of diversity, equity, and inclusion are literally-- and this is not kidding-- the core strengths of America. That's why I'm proud to have the most diverse administration in history that taps into the full talents of our country. And it starts at the top with the Vice President." --Joe Biden
On Aug 1, 2024 at 4:04:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 6:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 3:07:31 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 8/1/2024 4:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:39:06 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an
invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let
himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in
the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was
Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such questions. He
should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity
politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the >>>>>>>> pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism. >>>>>>>>
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it plus
the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the impression that
Trump merely pointed out that one of her father was black and her >>>>>>> mother was Indian and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much >>>>>>> more than black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly >>>>>>> reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the time she >>>>>>> turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out? This
sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob going ballistic over
something reasonable that Trump said as they try to make something >>>>>>> racist out of it.
The offense is in his inartfull answer to the question. That people >>>>>> emphasize one aspect of their makeup at different times is normal but
Trump made it seem like Kamala pretended to only be Indian until such
time as she needed to pretend to be only of Black heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives aren't capitalized
unless they start a sentence.
"The adjective Freudian is useful for describing something that's
influenced by or similar to the theories of German psychoanalyst Sigmund >>>> Freud."
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage of a guy named >>> Black. Thanks for the clarification.
The clarification was that adjectives (anywhere) may be capitalized...
Nope, not properly. If the following sentence was turned into the teacher on a
paper testing basic grammar, it'd be marked wrong:
"The Sick dog limped over to its Sad owner and settled down onto a Soft pillow."
On Thu, 01 Aug 2024 23:17:06 +0000
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 4:04:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>But don't you remember that our "progressive" journalists felt so
wrote:
On 8/1/2024 6:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:Nope, not properly. If the following sentence was turned into the
On Aug 1, 2024 at 3:07:31 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 8/1/2024 4:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:39:06 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He >>>>>>>>> accepted an invitation to speak to black journalists at their >>>>>>>>> convention and let himself get baiting into insulting Kamala >>>>>>>>> for not having been black in the past. (Again, her political >>>>>>>>> mentor in California politics was Willie Brown; she's black.) >>>>>>>>>
He expected the question because he always invites such >>>>>>>>> questions. He should have been prepared with a statement
against racial-identity politics. Pretty much all he had to
talk about was how good the pre-COVID economy was and very
low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear
criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local >>>>>>>>> coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions
to it plus the second article you've cited, but I'm left with
the impression that Trump merely pointed out that one of her
father was black and her mother was Indian and that she'd
always "identified" as Indian much more than black UNTIL
seeking office. That would be perfectly reasonable as her
father apparently disappeared about the time she turned 5 and
her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that >>>>>>>> out? This sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob
going ballistic over something reasonable that Trump said as
they try to make something racist out of it.
The offense is in his inartfull answer to the question. That >>>>>>> people emphasize one aspect of their makeup at different times
is normal but Trump made it seem like Kamala pretended to only
be Indian until such time as she needed to pretend to be only
of Black heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives
aren't capitalized unless they start a sentence.
"The adjective Freudian is useful for describing something that's
influenced by or similar to the theories of German psychoanalyst
Sigmund Freud."
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage of a
guy named Black. Thanks for the clarification.
The clarification was that adjectives (anywhere) may be
capitalized...
teacher on a paper testing basic grammar, it'd be marked wrong:
"The Sick dog limped over to its Sad owner and settled down onto a
Soft pillow."
horrible about the death of St. George of Fentanyl that they "elevated"
the word "black" so that it was *always* capitalized when referring to
a person of African heritage, apparently from then until the heat death
of the universe?
I saw that memo and disregarded it too but I'm sure moviepig is
aghast at your failure to write "Black" instead of "black".
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC) Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an
invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let
himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in >>>> the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was
Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such questions. He
should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity
politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the
pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it plus
the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the impression that
Trump merely pointed out that one of her father was black and her
mother was Indian and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much
more than black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly
reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the time she
turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out?
DEMOCRATS: We're going to make Kamala's race one of the cornerstones of
our campaign, talking about it incessantly, even where it's not
relevant, but Republicans better never comment on it or they're racist!
So let Trump be the grownup in the room instead of being so absurdly impolitic. It only hurts him.
On 8/1/2024 7:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 4:04:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 6:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 3:07:31 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 4:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:39:06 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an
invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let
himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in
the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was
Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such questions. He
should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity
politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the
pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment. >>>>>>>>>
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism. >>>>>>>>>
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it plus
the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the impression that
Trump merely pointed out that one of her father was black and her >>>>>>>> mother was Indian and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much
more than black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly >>>>>>>> reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the time she
turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out? This
sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob going ballistic over
something reasonable that Trump said as they try to make something
racist out of it.
The offense is in his inartfull answer to the question. That people
emphasize one aspect of their makeup at different times is normal but
Trump made it seem like Kamala pretended to only be Indian until such
time as she needed to pretend to be only of Black heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives aren't >>>>>> capitalized
unless they start a sentence.
"The adjective Freudian is useful for describing something that's >>>>> influenced by or similar to the theories of German psychoanalyst Sigmund
Freud."
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage of a guy named
Black. Thanks for the clarification.
The clarification was that adjectives (anywhere) may be capitalized...
Nope, not properly. If the following sentence was turned into the teacher >> on a
paper testing basic grammar, it'd be marked wrong:
"The Sick dog limped over to its Sad owner and settled down onto a Soft
pillow."
"Yes, the word "American" is capitalized. It is a proper adjective
referring to the United States of America or its people. As a general
rule, proper adjectives are capitalized, just like proper nouns. For
example, "American culture", "American history", and "American people"
are all correctly capitalized."
I could go on...
On Thu, 01 Aug 2024 23:17:06 +0000
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 4:04:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>But don't you remember that our "progressive" journalists felt so
wrote:
On 8/1/2024 6:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 3:07:31 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 8/1/2024 4:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:39:06 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He
accepted an invitation to speak to black journalists at their
convention and let himself get baiting into insulting Kamala
for not having been black in the past. (Again, her political
mentor in California politics was Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such
questions. He should have been prepared with a statement
against racial-identity politics. Pretty much all he had to
talk about was how good the pre-COVID economy was and very
low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear
criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local
coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions
to it plus the second article you've cited, but I'm left with
the impression that Trump merely pointed out that one of her
father was black and her mother was Indian and that she'd
always "identified" as Indian much more than black UNTIL
seeking office. That would be perfectly reasonable as her
father apparently disappeared about the time she turned 5 and
her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that
out? This sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob
going ballistic over something reasonable that Trump said as
they try to make something racist out of it.
The offense is in his inartfull answer to the question. That
people emphasize one aspect of their makeup at different times
is normal but Trump made it seem like Kamala pretended to only
be Indian until such time as she needed to pretend to be only
of Black heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives
aren't capitalized unless they start a sentence.
"The adjective Freudian is useful for describing something that's
influenced by or similar to the theories of German psychoanalyst
Sigmund Freud."
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage of a
guy named Black. Thanks for the clarification.
The clarification was that adjectives (anywhere) may be
capitalized...
Nope, not properly. If the following sentence was turned into the
teacher on a paper testing basic grammar, it'd be marked wrong:
"The Sick dog limped over to its Sad owner and settled down onto a
Soft pillow."
horrible about the death of St. George of Fentanyl that they "elevated"
the word "black" so that it was *always* capitalized when referring to
a person of African heritage, apparently from then until the heat death
of the universe?
In article <20240801143906.00000d8f@example.com>,
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an
invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let
himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in
the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was
Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such questions. He
should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity
politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the
pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamal
a-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harr
is-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-conventi
on/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it plus
the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the impression that
Trump merely pointed out that one of her father was black and her
mother was Indian and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much
more than black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly
reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the time she
turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out?
DEMOCRATS: We're going to make Kamala's race one of the cornerstones of
our campaign, talking about it incessantly, even where it's not
relevant, but Republicans better never comment on it or they're racist!
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:39:06 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an
invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let >>>> himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in >>>> the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was
Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such questions. He >>>> should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity
politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the
pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it plus
the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the impression that
Trump merely pointed out that one of her father was black and her
mother was Indian and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much
more than black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly
reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the time she
turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out? This
sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob going ballistic over
something reasonable that Trump said as they try to make something
racist out of it.
The offense is in his inartfull answer to the question. That people
emphasize one aspect of their makeup at different times is normal but
Trump made it seem like Kamala pretended to only be Indian until such
time as she needed to pretend to be only of Black heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives aren't capitalized unless they start a sentence.
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:18:41 PM PDT, "Capricorne" <capricorne@gmail.com> wrote:
Rhino wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an
invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let >>>> himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in >>>> the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was
Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such questions. He >>>> should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity
politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the
pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it plus
the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the impression that >>> Trump merely pointed out that one of her father was black and her
mother was Indian and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much
more than black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly
reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the time she
turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out? This
sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob going ballistic over
something reasonable that Trump said as they try to make something
racist out of it.
It's still weird though. :-?
https://ibb.co/zJhWvrk
On Aug 1, 2024 at 3:07:31 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 4:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:39:06 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an >>>>>> invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let >>>>>> himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black inI haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it plus >>>>> the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the impression that >>>>> Trump merely pointed out that one of her father was black and her
the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was >>>>>> Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such questions. He
should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity >>>>>> politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the >>>>>> pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage. >>>>>
mother was Indian and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much >>>>> more than black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly
reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the time she >>>>> turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out? This >>>>> sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob going ballistic over >>>>> something reasonable that Trump said as they try to make something >>>>> racist out of it.
The offense is in his inartfull answer to the question. That people
emphasize one aspect of their makeup at different times is normal but >>>> Trump made it seem like Kamala pretended to only be Indian until such >>>> time as she needed to pretend to be only of Black heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives aren't capitalized
unless they start a sentence.
"The adjective Freudian is useful for describing something that's
influenced by or similar to the theories of German psychoanalyst Sigmund
Freud."
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage of a guy named Black. Thanks for the clarification.
On Aug 1, 2024 at 11:02:14 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an
invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let
himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in
the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was Willie
Brown; she's black.)
The media has been going overboard lately to make sure we know how racist it is to call Kamala a "DEI hire", but it was Joe Biden himself who literally told us he hired her for DEI reasons:
"To me, the values of diversity, equity, and inclusion are literally-- and this is not kidding-- the core strengths of America. That's why I'm proud to have the most diverse administration in history that taps into the full talents of our country. And it starts at the top with the Vice President." --Joe Biden
https://ibb.co/k4BVXfF
On Aug 1, 2024 at 4:04:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 6:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 3:07:31 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 8/1/2024 4:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:39:06 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an
invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let
himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in
the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was
Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such questions. He
should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity
politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the >>>>>>>> pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism. >>>>>>>>
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it plus
the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the impression that
Trump merely pointed out that one of her father was black and her >>>>>>> mother was Indian and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much >>>>>>> more than black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly >>>>>>> reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the time she >>>>>>> turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out? This
sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob going ballistic over
something reasonable that Trump said as they try to make something >>>>>>> racist out of it.
The offense is in his inartfull answer to the question. That people >>>>>> emphasize one aspect of their makeup at different times is normal but
Trump made it seem like Kamala pretended to only be Indian until such
time as she needed to pretend to be only of Black heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives aren't capitalized
unless they start a sentence.
"The adjective Freudian is useful for describing something that's
influenced by or similar to the theories of German psychoanalyst Sigmund >>>> Freud."
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage of a guy named >>> Black. Thanks for the clarification.
The clarification was that adjectives (anywhere) may be capitalized...
Nope, not properly. If the following sentence was turned into the teacher on a
paper testing basic grammar, it'd be marked wrong:
"The Sick dog limped over to its Sad owner and settled down onto a Soft pillow."
On 8/1/2024 11:39 AM, Rhino wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an
invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let
himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in
the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was
Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such questions. He
should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity
politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the
pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-
a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-
kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-
journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it plus
the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the impression that
Trump merely pointed out that one of her father was black and her
mother was Indian and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much
more than black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly
reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the time she
turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out? This
sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob going ballistic over
something reasonable that Trump said as they try to make something
racist out of it.
Except that what you claim isn't true. She's always identified as both
Black and Indian. She didn't just suddenly change her racial profile.
On Aug 1, 2024 at 4:41:54 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On Thu, 01 Aug 2024 23:17:06 +0000
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 4:04:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>But don't you remember that our "progressive" journalists felt so
wrote:
> On 8/1/2024 6:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> On Aug 1, 2024 at 3:07:31 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On 8/1/2024 4:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>> On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn"
>>>> <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:39:06 -0400, Rhino
>>>>> <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
>>>>>> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He
>>>>>>> accepted an invitation to speak to black journalists at their
>>>>>>> convention and let himself get baiting into insulting Kamala
>>>>>>> for not having been black in the past. (Again, her political
>>>>>>> mentor in California politics was Willie Brown; she's black.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He expected the question because he always invites such
>>>>>>> questions. He should have been prepared with a statement
>>>>>>> against racial-identity politics. Pretty much all he had to
>>>>>>> talk about was how good the pre-COVID economy was and very
>>>>>>> low black unemployment.
>>>>>>> He was really there only to show he doesn't fear
>>>>>>> criticism.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
>>>>>>> The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local
>>>>>>> coverage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions
>>>>>> to it plus the second article you've cited, but I'm left with
>>>>>> the impression that Trump merely pointed out that one of her
>>>>>> father was black and her mother was Indian and that she'd
>>>>>> always "identified" as Indian much more than black UNTIL
>>>>>> seeking office. That would be perfectly reasonable as her
>>>>>> father apparently disappeared about the time she turned 5 and
>>>>>> her mother alone raised her from then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that
>>>>>> out? This sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob
>>>>>> going ballistic over something reasonable that Trump said as
>>>>>> they try to make something racist out of it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The offense is in his inartfull answer to the question. That
>>>>> people emphasize one aspect of their makeup at different times
>>>>> is normal but Trump made it seem like Kamala pretended to only
>>>>> be Indian until such time as she needed to pretend to be only
>>>>> of Black heritage.
>>>>
>>>> She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives
>>>> aren't capitalized unless they start a sentence.
>>>
>>> "The adjective Freudian is useful for describing something that's >>> >>> influenced by or similar to the theories of German psychoanalyst
>>> Sigmund Freud."
>>
>> Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage of a
>> guy named Black. Thanks for the clarification.
>
> The clarification was that adjectives (anywhere) may be
> capitalized...
Nope, not properly. If the following sentence was turned into the
teacher on a paper testing basic grammar, it'd be marked wrong:
"The Sick dog limped over to its Sad owner and settled down onto a
Soft pillow."
horrible about the death of St. George of Fentanyl that they "elevated"
the word "black" so that it was *always* capitalized when referring to
a person of African heritage, apparently from then until the heat death
of the universe?
Sure, but journalists aren't the arbiters of the English language and the rules of grammar, no matter how much they want to pretend otherwise.
On Aug 1, 2024 at 7:15:29 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 7:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 4:04:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 8/1/2024 6:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:Nope, not properly. If the following sentence was turned into the teacher >>> on a
On Aug 1, 2024 at 3:07:31 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 4:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:39:06 -0400, RhinoShe didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an
invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let
himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in
the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was
Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such questions. He
should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity
politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the
pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment. >>>>>>>>>>
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism. >>>>>>>>>>
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it plus
the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the impression that
Trump merely pointed out that one of her father was black and her
mother was Indian and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much
more than black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly >>>>>>>>> reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the time she
turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out? This
sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob going ballistic over
something reasonable that Trump said as they try to make something
racist out of it.
The offense is in his inartfull answer to the question. That people
emphasize one aspect of their makeup at different times is normal but
Trump made it seem like Kamala pretended to only be Indian until such
time as she needed to pretend to be only of Black heritage. >>>>>>>
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives aren't >>>>>>> capitalized
unless they start a sentence.
"The adjective Freudian is useful for describing something that's >>>>>> influenced by or similar to the theories of German psychoanalyst Sigmund
Freud."
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage of a guy named
Black. Thanks for the clarification.
The clarification was that adjectives (anywhere) may be capitalized... >>>
paper testing basic grammar, it'd be marked wrong:
"The Sick dog limped over to its Sad owner and settled down onto a Soft >>> pillow."
"Yes, the word "American" is capitalized. It is a proper adjective
referring to the United States of America or its people. As a general
rule, proper adjectives are capitalized, just like proper nouns. For
example, "American culture", "American history", and "American people"
are all correctly capitalized."
I could go on...
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage of a guy named Black. Thanks for the clarification.
On 8/1/2024 3:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:39:06 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an >>>>> invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and let >>>>> himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having beenI haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it plus
black in
the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was >>>>> Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such
questions. He
should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity >>>>> politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the
pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage. >>>>
the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the impression that >>>> Trump merely pointed out that one of her father was black and her
mother was Indian and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much
more than black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly
reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the time she
turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out? This
sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob going ballistic over
something reasonable that Trump said as they try to make something
racist out of it.
The offense is in his inartfull answer to the question. That people
emphasize one aspect of their makeup at different times is normal but
Trump made it seem like Kamala pretended to only be Indian until such
time as she needed to pretend to be only of Black heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives aren't
capitalized
unless they start a sentence.
Guy who literally drove off a cliff says what? Your use of the language
is horseshit because of your decimated brain. Race can be referred to
as either a common or proper noun.
On Aug 1, 2024 at 4:41:54 PM PDT, "Rhino"
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On Thu, 01 Aug 2024 23:17:06 +0000
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 4:04:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>But don't you remember that our "progressive" journalists felt so
wrote:
On 8/1/2024 6:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 3:07:31 PM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 4:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:39:06 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture.
He accepted an invitation to speak to black journalists
at their convention and let himself get baiting into
insulting Kamala for not having been black in the past.
(Again, her political mentor in California politics was
Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites
such questions. He should have been prepared with a
statement against racial-identity politics. Pretty much
all he had to talk about was how good the pre-COVID
economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear
criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the
local coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the
reactions to it plus the second article you've cited, but
I'm left with the impression that Trump merely pointed out
that one of her father was black and her mother was Indian
and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much more
than black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly
reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the
time she turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from
then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of
that out? This sounds like another exercise in the outrage
mob going ballistic over something reasonable that Trump
said as they try to make something racist out of it.
The offense is in his inartfull answer to the question.
That people emphasize one aspect of their makeup at
different times is normal but Trump made it seem like
Kamala pretended to only be Indian until such time as she
needed to pretend to be only of Black heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives
aren't capitalized unless they start a sentence.
"The adjective Freudian is useful for describing something
that's influenced by or similar to the theories of German
psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud."
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage of a
guy named Black. Thanks for the clarification.
The clarification was that adjectives (anywhere) may be
capitalized...
Nope, not properly. If the following sentence was turned into the
teacher on a paper testing basic grammar, it'd be marked wrong:
"The Sick dog limped over to its Sad owner and settled down onto a
Soft pillow."
horrible about the death of St. George of Fentanyl that they
"elevated" the word "black" so that it was *always* capitalized
when referring to a person of African heritage, apparently from
then until the heat death of the universe?
Sure, but journalists aren't the arbiters of the English language and
the rules of grammar, no matter how much they want to pretend
otherwise.
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn"wrote:
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:39:06 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted
an invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention
and let himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having
been black in the past. (Again, her political mentor in
California politics was Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such
questions. He should have been prepared with a statement against
racial-identity politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about
was how good the pre-COVID economy was and very low black
unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local
coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it
plus the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the
impression that Trump merely pointed out that one of her father
was black and her mother was Indian and that she'd always
"identified" as Indian much more than black UNTIL seeking office.
That would be perfectly reasonable as her father apparently
disappeared about the time she turned 5 and her mother alone
raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out?
This sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob going
ballistic over something reasonable that Trump said as they try
to make something racist out of it.
The offense is in his inartfull answer to the question. That people
emphasize one aspect of their makeup at different times is normal
but Trump made it seem like Kamala pretended to only be Indian
until such time as she needed to pretend to be only of Black
heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives aren'tunless they start a sentence.
capitalized
And Kamala claimed (lied) to be African-American along time ago to get financial aid.
On 8/1/2024 11:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 7:15:29 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 8/1/2024 7:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 4:04:01 PM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 6:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 3:07:31 PM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 4:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:39:06 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the
furniture. He accepted an invitation to speak to black
journalists at their convention and let himself get
baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in >>>>>>>>>> the past. (Again, her political mentor in California
politics was Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites >>>>>>>>>> such questions. He should have been prepared with a
statement against racial-identity politics. Pretty much
all he had to talk about was how good the pre-COVID
economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear >>>>>>>>>> criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the >>>>>>>>>> local coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the
reactions to it plus the second article you've cited, but
I'm left with the impression that Trump merely pointed out >>>>>>>>> that one of her father was black and her mother was Indian >>>>>>>>> and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much more than >>>>>>>>> black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly
reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the
time she turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then. >>>>>>>>>
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of >>>>>>>>> that out? This sounds like another exercise in the outrage >>>>>>>>> mob going ballistic over something reasonable that Trump
said as they try to make something racist out of it.
The offense is in his inartfull answer to the
question. That people emphasize one aspect of their makeup
at different times is normal but Trump made it seem like
Kamala pretended to only be Indian until such time as she
needed to pretend to be only of Black heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives
aren't capitalized
unless they start a sentence.
"The adjective Freudian is useful for describing something
that's influenced by or similar to the theories of German
psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud."
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage
of a guy named Black. Thanks for the clarification.
The clarification was that adjectives (anywhere) may be
capitalized...
Nope, not properly. If the following sentence was turned into
the teacher on a
paper testing basic grammar, it'd be marked wrong:
"The Sick dog limped over to its Sad owner and settled down
onto a Soft pillow."
"Yes, the word "American" is capitalized. It is a proper adjective
referring to the United States of America or its people. As a
general rule, proper adjectives are capitalized, just like proper
nouns. For example, "American culture", "American history", and
"American people" are all correctly capitalized."
I could go on...
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage of a guy
named Black. Thanks for the clarification.
Then I'll go on: The actual clarification, should you choose to
examine it, surrounds "...adjectives aren't capitalized unless they
start a sentence." In fact, *no* word's intrinsic capitalization is
affected by its grammatical position or part of speech.
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 17:43:09 -0700
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn"wrote:
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
unless they start a sentence.
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:39:06 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted
an invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention
and let himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having
been black in the past. (Again, her political mentor in
California politics was Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such
questions. He should have been prepared with a statement against
racial-identity politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about
was how good the pre-COVID economy was and very low black
unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local
coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it
plus the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the
impression that Trump merely pointed out that one of her father
was black and her mother was Indian and that she'd always
"identified" as Indian much more than black UNTIL seeking office.
That would be perfectly reasonable as her father apparently
disappeared about the time she turned 5 and her mother alone
raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out?
This sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob going
ballistic over something reasonable that Trump said as they try
to make something racist out of it.
The offense is in his inartfull answer to the question. That people
emphasize one aspect of their makeup at different times is normal
but Trump made it seem like Kamala pretended to only be Indian
until such time as she needed to pretend to be only of Black
heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives aren't
capitalized
And Kamala claimed (lied) to be African-American along time ago to get
financial aid.
Do those programs require both of your parents to be African-American?
Unless they do, she didn't break any rules unless proof has
emerged that her father was not African-American after all.
Thu, 1 Aug 2024 17:43:09 -0700 anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
. . .
And Kamala claimed (lied) to be African-American along time ago to get >>financial aid.
Do those programs require both of your parents to be African-American?
Unless they do, she didn't break any rules unless proof has
emerged that her father was not African-American after all.
On 8/2/2024 11:32 AM, Rhino wrote:
Thu, 1 Aug 2024 17:43:09 -0700 anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
. . .
And Kamala claimed (lied) to be African-American along time ago to get >>>financial aid.
Do those programs require both of your parents to be African-American? >>Unless they do, she didn't break any rules unless proof has
emerged that her father was not African-American after all.
Technically, he's Afro-Caribbean, but since that area of the world is >included in the Americas I think it counts.
On 8/2/2024 11:32 AM, Rhino wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 17:43:09 -0700
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn"wrote:
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
unless they start a sentence.
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:39:06 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted >>>>>>> an invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention
and let himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having >>>>>>> been black in the past. (Again, her political mentor in
California politics was Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such
questions. He should have been prepared with a statement against >>>>>>> racial-identity politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about
was how good the pre-COVID economy was and very low black
unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local
coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it
plus the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the
impression that Trump merely pointed out that one of her father
was black and her mother was Indian and that she'd always
"identified" as Indian much more than black UNTIL seeking office.
That would be perfectly reasonable as her father apparently
disappeared about the time she turned 5 and her mother alone
raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out?
This sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob going
ballistic over something reasonable that Trump said as they try
to make something racist out of it.
The offense is in his inartfull answer to the question. That people
emphasize one aspect of their makeup at different times is normal
but Trump made it seem like Kamala pretended to only be Indian
until such time as she needed to pretend to be only of Black
heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives aren't
capitalized
And Kamala claimed (lied) to be African-American along time ago to get
financial aid.
Do those programs require both of your parents to be African-American?
Unless they do, she didn't break any rules unless proof has
emerged that her father was not African-American after all.
Technically, he's Afro-Caribbean, but since that area of the world is included in the Americas I think it counts.
On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 12:33:55 -0400
moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 11:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:It sounds like you're admitting there is absolutely no rule of grammar
On Aug 1, 2024 at 7:15:29 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 8/1/2024 7:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 4:04:01 PM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 6:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 3:07:31 PM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 4:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:39:06 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the
furniture. He accepted an invitation to speak to black >>>>>>>>>>>> journalists at their convention and let himself get
baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been black in >>>>>>>>>>>> the past. (Again, her political mentor in California
politics was Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites >>>>>>>>>>>> such questions. He should have been prepared with a
statement against racial-identity politics. Pretty much >>>>>>>>>>>> all he had to talk about was how good the pre-COVID
economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear >>>>>>>>>>>> criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the >>>>>>>>>>>> local coverage.
I haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the
reactions to it plus the second article you've cited, but >>>>>>>>>>> I'm left with the impression that Trump merely pointed out >>>>>>>>>>> that one of her father was black and her mother was Indian >>>>>>>>>>> and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much more than >>>>>>>>>>> black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly
reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the >>>>>>>>>>> time she turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then. >>>>>>>>>>>
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of >>>>>>>>>>> that out? This sounds like another exercise in the outrage >>>>>>>>>>> mob going ballistic over something reasonable that Trump >>>>>>>>>>> said as they try to make something racist out of it.
The offense is in his inartfull answer to the
question. That people emphasize one aspect of their makeup >>>>>>>>>> at different times is normal but Trump made it seem like
Kamala pretended to only be Indian until such time as she
needed to pretend to be only of Black heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives >>>>>>>>> aren't capitalized
unless they start a sentence.
"The adjective Freudian is useful for describing something >>>>>>>> that's influenced by or similar to the theories of German
psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud."
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage
of a guy named Black. Thanks for the clarification.
The clarification was that adjectives (anywhere) may be
capitalized...
Nope, not properly. If the following sentence was turned into
the teacher on a
paper testing basic grammar, it'd be marked wrong:
"The Sick dog limped over to its Sad owner and settled down
onto a Soft pillow."
"Yes, the word "American" is capitalized. It is a proper adjective
referring to the United States of America or its people. As a
general rule, proper adjectives are capitalized, just like proper
nouns. For example, "American culture", "American history", and
"American people" are all correctly capitalized."
I could go on...
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage of a guy
named Black. Thanks for the clarification.
Then I'll go on: The actual clarification, should you choose to
examine it, surrounds "...adjectives aren't capitalized unless they
start a sentence." In fact, *no* word's intrinsic capitalization is
affected by its grammatical position or part of speech.
that requires "black" to be capitalized in the way that journalists
have (largely) insisted on doing since the death of George Floyd. Thank
you for finally seeing sense and being on the same side as me and
BTR1701.
On 8/2/2024 2:30 PM, Rhino wrote:
On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 12:33:55 -0400
moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 11:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 7:15:29 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>> On 8/1/2024 7:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 4:04:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 6:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 3:07:31 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 4:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
It sounds like you're admitting there is absolutely no rule of grammarThe offense is in his inartfull answer to the
question. That people emphasize one aspect of their makeup >>>>>>>>>> at different times is normal but Trump made it seem like >>>>>>>>>> Kamala pretended to only be Indian until such time as she >>>>>>>>>> needed to pretend to be only of Black heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives
aren't capitalized unless they start a sentence.
"The adjective Freudian is useful for describing something
that's influenced by or similar to the theories of German
psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud."
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage
of a guy named Black. Thanks for the clarification.
The clarification was that adjectives (anywhere) may be
capitalized...
Nope, not properly. If the following sentence was turned into
the teacher on a paper testing basic grammar, it'd be marked wrong: >>>>>
"The Sick dog limped over to its Sad owner and settled down
onto a Soft pillow."
"Yes, the word "American" is capitalized. It is a proper adjective
referring to the United States of America or its people. As a
general rule, proper adjectives are capitalized, just like proper
nouns. For example, "American culture", "American history", and
"American people" are all correctly capitalized."
I could go on...
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage of a guy
named Black. Thanks for the clarification.
Then I'll go on: The actual clarification, should you choose to
examine it, surrounds "...adjectives aren't capitalized unless they
start a sentence." In fact, *no* word's intrinsic capitalization is
affected by its grammatical position or part of speech.
that requires "black" to be capitalized in the way that journalists
have (largely) insisted on doing since the death of George Floyd. Thank
you for finally seeing sense and being on the same side as me and
BTR1701.
Well, let's pretend you're actually asking my opinion on capitalizing
'black' (which I haven't addressed above, at all). It *shouldn't* be capitalized as a plain physical descriptor, e.g., referring to
dark-skinned people. Otoh, it *should* be capitalized as a race, e.g.,
since not all Blacks are black.
In article <v8jatu$2v8su$1@dont-email.me>,
moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/2/2024 2:30 PM, Rhino wrote:
On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 12:33:55 -0400
moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 11:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 7:15:29 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>> On 8/1/2024 7:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 4:04:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 6:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 3:07:31 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 4:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
It sounds like you're admitting there is absolutely no rule of grammarThe offense is in his inartfull answer to the
question. That people emphasize one aspect of their makeup >>>>>>>>>>>> at different times is normal but Trump made it seem like >>>>>>>>>>>> Kamala pretended to only be Indian until such time as she >>>>>>>>>>>> needed to pretend to be only of Black heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives
aren't capitalized unless they start a sentence.
"The adjective Freudian is useful for describing something >>>>>>>>>> that's influenced by or similar to the theories of German
psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud."
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage
of a guy named Black. Thanks for the clarification.
The clarification was that adjectives (anywhere) may be
capitalized...
Nope, not properly. If the following sentence was turned into
the teacher on a paper testing basic grammar, it'd be marked wrong: >>>>>>>
"The Sick dog limped over to its Sad owner and settled down
onto a Soft pillow."
"Yes, the word "American" is capitalized. It is a proper adjective >>>>>> referring to the United States of America or its people. As a
general rule, proper adjectives are capitalized, just like proper
nouns. For example, "American culture", "American history", and
"American people" are all correctly capitalized."
I could go on...
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage of a guy
named Black. Thanks for the clarification.
Then I'll go on: The actual clarification, should you choose to
examine it, surrounds "...adjectives aren't capitalized unless they
start a sentence." In fact, *no* word's intrinsic capitalization is
affected by its grammatical position or part of speech.
that requires "black" to be capitalized in the way that journalists
have (largely) insisted on doing since the death of George Floyd. Thank
you for finally seeing sense and being on the same side as me and
BTR1701.
Well, let's pretend you're actually asking my opinion on capitalizing
'black' (which I haven't addressed above, at all). It *shouldn't* be
capitalized as a plain physical descriptor, e.g., referring to
dark-skinned people. Otoh, it *should* be capitalized as a race, e.g.,
since not all Blacks are black.
And yet the media doesn't capitalize "white" as a race.
On 8/2/2024 3:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <v8jatu$2v8su$1@dont-email.me>,
moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/2/2024 2:30 PM, Rhino wrote:
On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 12:33:55 -0400
moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 11:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 7:15:29 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 8/1/2024 7:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 4:04:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 6:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 3:07:31 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 4:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
It sounds like you're admitting there is absolutely no rule of grammar >>> that requires "black" to be capitalized in the way that journalistsThe offense is in his inartfull answer to the
question. That people emphasize one aspect of their makeup >>>>>>>>>>>> at different times is normal but Trump made it seem like >>>>>>>>>>>> Kamala pretended to only be Indian until such time as she >>>>>>>>>>>> needed to pretend to be only of Black heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives >>>>>>>>>>> aren't capitalized unless they start a sentence.
"The adjective Freudian is useful for describing something >>>>>>>>>> that's influenced by or similar to the theories of German >>>>>>>>>> psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud."
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage
of a guy named Black. Thanks for the clarification.
The clarification was that adjectives (anywhere) may be
capitalized...
Nope, not properly. If the following sentence was turned into
the teacher on a paper testing basic grammar, it'd be marked wrong: >>>>>>>
"The Sick dog limped over to its Sad owner and settled down
onto a Soft pillow."
"Yes, the word "American" is capitalized. It is a proper adjective >>>>>> referring to the United States of America or its people. As a
general rule, proper adjectives are capitalized, just like proper >>>>>> nouns. For example, "American culture", "American history", and
"American people" are all correctly capitalized."
I could go on...
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage of a guy >>>>> named Black. Thanks for the clarification.
Then I'll go on: The actual clarification, should you choose to
examine it, surrounds "...adjectives aren't capitalized unless they
start a sentence." In fact, *no* word's intrinsic capitalization is
affected by its grammatical position or part of speech.
have (largely) insisted on doing since the death of George Floyd. Thank >>> you for finally seeing sense and being on the same side as me and
BTR1701.
Well, let's pretend you're actually asking my opinion on capitalizing
'black' (which I haven't addressed above, at all). It *shouldn't* be
capitalized as a plain physical descriptor, e.g., referring to
dark-skinned people. Otoh, it *should* be capitalized as a race, e.g.,
since not all Blacks are black.
And yet the media doesn't capitalize "white" as a race.
That's true. Here's AP:
https://apnews.com/article/archive-race-and-ethnicity-9105661462
Personally, if *I* had to defend that status quo anomaly, I might note
that one semi-conscious meaning of 'white' is 'non-Black', which I'm not
sure qualifies as a physical descriptor or a racial one.
In article <v8jir4$30qel$1@dont-email.me>,
moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/2/2024 3:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <v8jatu$2v8su$1@dont-email.me>,
moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/2/2024 2:30 PM, Rhino wrote:
On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 12:33:55 -0400
moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 11:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 7:15:29 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 7:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 4:04:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 6:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 3:07:31 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 4:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
It sounds like you're admitting there is absolutely no rule of grammar >>>>> that requires "black" to be capitalized in the way that journalistsThe offense is in his inartfull answer to the
question. That people emphasize one aspect of their makeup >>>>>>>>>>>>>> at different times is normal but Trump made it seem like >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kamala pretended to only be Indian until such time as she >>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed to pretend to be only of Black heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives >>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't capitalized unless they start a sentence.
"The adjective Freudian is useful for describing something >>>>>>>>>>>> that's influenced by or similar to the theories of German >>>>>>>>>>>> psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud."
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage >>>>>>>>>>> of a guy named Black. Thanks for the clarification.
The clarification was that adjectives (anywhere) may be
capitalized...
Nope, not properly. If the following sentence was turned into >>>>>>>>> the teacher on a paper testing basic grammar, it'd be marked wrong: >>>>>>>>>
"The Sick dog limped over to its Sad owner and settled down
onto a Soft pillow."
"Yes, the word "American" is capitalized. It is a proper adjective >>>>>>>> referring to the United States of America or its people. As a
general rule, proper adjectives are capitalized, just like proper >>>>>>>> nouns. For example, "American culture", "American history", and >>>>>>>> "American people" are all correctly capitalized."
I could go on...
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage of a guy >>>>>>> named Black. Thanks for the clarification.
Then I'll go on: The actual clarification, should you choose to
examine it, surrounds "...adjectives aren't capitalized unless they >>>>>> start a sentence." In fact, *no* word's intrinsic capitalization is >>>>>> affected by its grammatical position or part of speech.
have (largely) insisted on doing since the death of George Floyd. Thank >>>>> you for finally seeing sense and being on the same side as me and
BTR1701.
Well, let's pretend you're actually asking my opinion on capitalizing
'black' (which I haven't addressed above, at all). It *shouldn't* be
capitalized as a plain physical descriptor, e.g., referring to
dark-skinned people. Otoh, it *should* be capitalized as a race, e.g., >>>> since not all Blacks are black.
And yet the media doesn't capitalize "white" as a race.
That's true. Here's AP:
Oh, I know all about their woke bullshit. But the AP deciding to be woke doesn't change the rules of grammar in the English language. They're
simply making intentional grammatical errors to virtue signal and score political points.
https://apnews.com/article/archive-race-and-ethnicity-9105661462
Personally, if *I* had to defend that status quo anomaly, I might note
that one semi-conscious meaning of 'white' is 'non-Black', which I'm not
sure qualifies as a physical descriptor or a racial one.
So black is the default condition for humanity and 'white' is an anomaly
that simply means "not the default"?
Yikes.
On 8/2/2024 2:59 AM, trotsky wrote:
On 8/1/2024 3:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:39:06 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 18:02:14 -0000 (UTC)
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
All Trump had to do was not trip over the furniture. He accepted an >>>>>> invitation to speak to black journalists at their convention and >>>>>> letI haven't seen the remarks themselves, only the reactions to it plus >>>>> the second article you've cited, but I'm left with the impression that >>>>> Trump merely pointed out that one of her father was black and her
himself get baiting into insulting Kamala for not having been
black in
the past. (Again, her political mentor in California politics was >>>>>> Willie Brown; she's black.)
He expected the question because he always invites such
questions. He
should have been prepared with a statement against racial-identity >>>>>> politics. Pretty much all he had to talk about was how good the >>>>>> pre-COVID economy was and very low black unemployment.
He was really there only to show he doesn't fear criticism.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/donald-trump-nabj-q-a-kamala-harris-chicago-conference-black-journalists
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/07/31/donald-trump-questions-kamala-harris-racial-identity-compares-himself-to-lincoln-at-black-journalists-convention/
The national coverage I've seen merely repeats the local coverage. >>>>>
mother was Indian and that she'd always "identified" as Indian much
more than black UNTIL seeking office. That would be perfectly
reasonable as her father apparently disappeared about the time she
turned 5 and her mother alone raised her from then.
What exactly is offensive about Trump pointing any of that out? This >>>>> sounds like another exercise in the outrage mob going ballistic over >>>>> something reasonable that Trump said as they try to make something >>>>> racist out of it.
The offense is in his inartfull answer to the question. That people
emphasize one aspect of their makeup at different times is normal but
Trump made it seem like Kamala pretended to only be Indian until such
time as she needed to pretend to be only of Black heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives aren't
capitalized
unless they start a sentence.
Guy who literally drove off a cliff says what? Your use of the
language is horseshit because of your decimated brain. Race can be
referred to as either a common or proper noun.
...or, in the event of racial animus, an improper noun.
In article <v8jatu$2v8su$1@dont-email.me>,
moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/2/2024 2:30 PM, Rhino wrote:
On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 12:33:55 -0400
moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 11:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 7:15:29 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>> On 8/1/2024 7:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 4:04:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 6:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 3:07:31 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 4:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
It sounds like you're admitting there is absolutely no rule of grammarThe offense is in his inartfull answer to the
question. That people emphasize one aspect of their makeup >>>>>>>>>>>> at different times is normal but Trump made it seem like >>>>>>>>>>>> Kamala pretended to only be Indian until such time as she >>>>>>>>>>>> needed to pretend to be only of Black heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives
aren't capitalized unless they start a sentence.
"The adjective Freudian is useful for describing something >>>>>>>>>> that's influenced by or similar to the theories of German
psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud."
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage
of a guy named Black. Thanks for the clarification.
The clarification was that adjectives (anywhere) may be
capitalized...
Nope, not properly. If the following sentence was turned into
the teacher on a paper testing basic grammar, it'd be marked wrong: >>>>>>>
"The Sick dog limped over to its Sad owner and settled down
onto a Soft pillow."
"Yes, the word "American" is capitalized. It is a proper adjective >>>>>> referring to the United States of America or its people. As a
general rule, proper adjectives are capitalized, just like proper
nouns. For example, "American culture", "American history", and
"American people" are all correctly capitalized."
I could go on...
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage of a guy
named Black. Thanks for the clarification.
Then I'll go on: The actual clarification, should you choose to
examine it, surrounds "...adjectives aren't capitalized unless they
start a sentence." In fact, *no* word's intrinsic capitalization is
affected by its grammatical position or part of speech.
that requires "black" to be capitalized in the way that journalists
have (largely) insisted on doing since the death of George Floyd. Thank
you for finally seeing sense and being on the same side as me and
BTR1701.
Well, let's pretend you're actually asking my opinion on capitalizing
'black' (which I haven't addressed above, at all). It *shouldn't* be
capitalized as a plain physical descriptor, e.g., referring to
dark-skinned people. Otoh, it *should* be capitalized as a race, e.g.,
since not all Blacks are black.
And yet the media doesn't capitalize "white" as a race.
Weird...
In article <v8jir4$30qel$1@dont-email.me>,
moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/2/2024 3:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <v8jatu$2v8su$1@dont-email.me>,
moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/2/2024 2:30 PM, Rhino wrote:
On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 12:33:55 -0400
moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 11:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 7:15:29 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 7:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 4:04:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 6:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 3:07:31 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On 8/1/2024 4:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 1, 2024 at 1:34:08 PM PDT, "shawn"
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
It sounds like you're admitting there is absolutely no rule of grammar >>>>> that requires "black" to be capitalized in the way that journalistsThe offense is in his inartfull answer to the
question. That people emphasize one aspect of their makeup >>>>>>>>>>>>>> at different times is normal but Trump made it seem like >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kamala pretended to only be Indian until such time as she >>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed to pretend to be only of Black heritage.
She didn't? Sure looks that way to me.
Oh, and FYI, "black" is an adjective and and adjectives >>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't capitalized unless they start a sentence.
"The adjective Freudian is useful for describing something >>>>>>>>>>>> that's influenced by or similar to the theories of German >>>>>>>>>>>> psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud."
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage >>>>>>>>>>> of a guy named Black. Thanks for the clarification.
The clarification was that adjectives (anywhere) may be
capitalized...
Nope, not properly. If the following sentence was turned into >>>>>>>>> the teacher on a paper testing basic grammar, it'd be marked wrong: >>>>>>>>>
"The Sick dog limped over to its Sad owner and settled down
onto a Soft pillow."
"Yes, the word "American" is capitalized. It is a proper adjective >>>>>>>> referring to the United States of America or its people. As a
general rule, proper adjectives are capitalized, just like proper >>>>>>>> nouns. For example, "American culture", "American history", and >>>>>>>> "American people" are all correctly capitalized."
I could go on...
Oh, I didn't realize shawn was talking about the heritage of a guy >>>>>>> named Black. Thanks for the clarification.
Then I'll go on: The actual clarification, should you choose to
examine it, surrounds "...adjectives aren't capitalized unless they >>>>>> start a sentence." In fact, *no* word's intrinsic capitalization is >>>>>> affected by its grammatical position or part of speech.
have (largely) insisted on doing since the death of George Floyd. Thank >>>>> you for finally seeing sense and being on the same side as me and
BTR1701.
Well, let's pretend you're actually asking my opinion on capitalizing
'black' (which I haven't addressed above, at all). It *shouldn't* be
capitalized as a plain physical descriptor, e.g., referring to
dark-skinned people. Otoh, it *should* be capitalized as a race, e.g., >>>> since not all Blacks are black.
And yet the media doesn't capitalize "white" as a race.
That's true. Here's AP:
Oh, I know all about their woke bullshit.