• Re: 2023 Nebula Winner Saint Of Bright Doors

    From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Titus G on Mon Aug 5 17:05:00 2024
    On 7/1/24 22:55, Titus G wrote:
    On 10/06/24 01:17, James Nicoll wrote:
    Nebula Award For Novel

    The Saint Of Bright Doors, Vajra Chandrasekera


    15/06/24
    I have read over half of this and I am struggling. The prose is
    OK, the world building just maintains my interest, the plot has
    promise and protagonist Fetter is a paranoid, (perhaps with reason), secretive weirdo who sees both Buddhism Heaven and Hell which coexist
    without awareness of each other, (there might be doors). His purpose
    since birth and his conditioning since is to assassinate his Father, a charismatic religious leader of which there are many, and he has been
    trained in such things as murder. I know hardly anything about Buddhism
    and its mythology and am not interested in research so have no
    background for this novel. Is also very slow moving which makes it
    sometimes difficult to stay awake whilst reading.
    I am not sure whether to continue or not.
    02/07/24
    I haven't picked it up in two weeks so probably won't finish it unless someone inspires me with their appreciation.


    Well Zen Buddhism was very useful to the Samurai of
    Feudal Japan. So this is a Ninja (old Chinese for spy)which
    were several clans in different domains trained in spying
    and several unfair to the opponent martial arts and murder
    was the least of that. They worked to advance the Lord of
    the clan and the best known of such practioners may have been
    Hanzo who worked to bodyguard Tokugawa Ieyasu as Ieyasu pursued
    a path to take control of Japan to save it from the wasteful
    interdomain wars. Yes the Shogun was a military dictator but
    the peace served Japan very well.

    Now Buddhist Heaven and Hell are right here, right now.
    You focus on what is good in your life and it looks just like
    Heaven and if you focus on the bad things happening in this
    life it is certainly hell where the innocent are murdered again
    and again in futile wars built around myths. Now to see
    both view points clearly and to reside in the instant which
    just went past unnoticed again, you would be in Nirvana.
    By the way many forms of Buddhism do not bother with heaven
    or hell because the focus is usually on other matters such
    as collecting voluntary contributions to the Religious Community
    which is responsible for promulgating there version of the
    true doctrine. But for popular consumption and to encourage
    civic virtues a heaven and a hell are handy.

    bliss - or should I post an introduction?

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    b l i s s - S F 4 e v e r at D S L E x t r e m e dot com

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  • From Titus G@21:1/5 to Bobbie Sellers on Tue Aug 6 15:46:01 2024
    On 6/08/24 12:05, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
    On 7/1/24 22:55, Titus G wrote:
    On 10/06/24 01:17, James Nicoll wrote:
    Nebula Award For Novel

    The Saint Of Bright Doors, Vajra Chandrasekera


    15/06/24
    I have read over half of this and I am struggling. The prose is
    OK, the world building just maintains my interest, the plot has
    promise and protagonist Fetter is a paranoid, (perhaps with reason),
    secretive weirdo who sees both Buddhism Heaven and Hell which coexist
    without awareness of each other, (there might be doors). His purpose
    since birth and his conditioning since is to assassinate his Father, a
    charismatic religious leader of which there are many, and he has been
    trained in such things as murder. I know hardly anything about Buddhism
    and its mythology and am not interested in research so have no
    background for this novel. Is also very slow moving which makes it
    sometimes difficult to stay awake whilst reading.
    I am not sure whether to continue or not.
    02/07/24
    I haven't picked it up in two weeks so probably won't finish it unless
    someone inspires me with their appreciation.


        Well Zen Buddhism was very useful to the Samurai of
    Feudal Japan. So this is a Ninja (old Chinese for spy)which
    were several clans in different domains trained in spying
    and several unfair to the opponent martial arts and murder
    was the least of that. They worked to advance the Lord of
    the clan and the best known of such practioners may have been
    Hanzo who worked to bodyguard Tokugawa Ieyasu as Ieyasu pursued
    a path to take control of Japan to save it from the wasteful
    interdomain wars. Yes the Shogun was a military dictator but
    the peace served Japan very well.

        Now Buddhist Heaven and Hell are right here, right now.
    You focus on what is good in your life and it looks just like
    Heaven and if you focus on the bad things happening in this
    life it is certainly hell where the innocent are murdered again
    and again in futile wars built around myths.  Now to see
    both view points clearly and to reside in the instant which
    just went past unnoticed again, you would be in Nirvana.
    By the way many forms of Buddhism do not bother with heaven
    or hell because the focus is usually on other matters such
    as collecting voluntary contributions to the Religious Community
    which is responsible for promulgating there version of the
    true doctrine. But for popular consumption and to encourage
    civic virtues a heaven and a hell are handy.

        bliss - or should I post an introduction?


    Welcome. New posters don't usually introduce themselves; you will become
    known by your posts but if you want to, do so as the main rule of this
    group is that you can say whatever you like.
    Thank you for your informative reply.

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