• If it's not one thing, it's another.

    From micky@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 13 20:14:34 2024
    I left the house at 7AM this morning, 7 days ago, and the question was
    whether to leave the fan on or not.

    I once had a fan that caught on fire, so I'm wary. Now that fan I got
    at a yard sale and it had a thin, flat, square base with holes in 4
    corners and must have been riveted to some piece of machinery in a
    factory, so it was probably 40 years old or more when they stopped using
    the machine, and ten years went by before I bought it, years earlier. So
    it was 60+ years old, ready perhaps to wear out. It sat in the window
    frame above my bed. Even when I had AC, I rarely used it, preferring
    fresh air and fans.

    But it squeaked so I oiled it, and I had to oil it over and over, until
    the the base and the body of the motor had a layer of oil, and if it
    squeaks, that means it's getting hot and sure enough one morning I woke
    up to see flames about an inch high coming from the motor. So I don't
    use that fan anymore (although I'm still looking for a replacement
    motor, since it fit so nicely on the window sill.)

    But my house still didn't get very hot, even upstairs, because I had a
    roof fan. The first year I lived here it was so hot, I couldn't go
    upstairs when I got home from work. I'd sleep in the basement and in
    the morning I'd wash and get fresh clothes. Despite what people on AHR
    told me, the roof fan fixed that.

    But the roof fan motor has oil holes at both ends of the motor. How is
    one supposed to oil the top of the motor??????

    I never did and motors lasted me about 8 years, although one failed
    after 3. And the last time a motor stalled, I didn't replace it, 2 or 3
    years ago.

    So now the 2nd floor really is hot during the hottest summer days (and
    I'm home more because I'm retired). But I have a fan in the bedroom and
    one in the office/spare bedroom, and there are really only about 4 days
    that are too hot for me, even in Baltimore.

    Until this year.that is. I don't know about global warming, I only now Maryland Warming, and that seems to be for real.

    Five years ago I realized that I have a laundry chute that leads from
    the basement. The basement is always cool and eventually I found a fan
    that fit the 2nd floor opening to the chute. I ran an extension cord
    down the chute and plugged it in in the basement, drilled a hole in the
    2nd floor faceplate and ran a wire 4 inches from it, with a line switch
    at the end. So now I have basement air to cool the upstairs.

    People here told me it would never work, that the basement air would
    turn warm after a few hours. But I can run it from 9 or 10 AM until 8 PM
    and that never happens. Sadly, it's right next to the steps, so half
    the cold air falls down the stairs, but my impression is that it takes 3
    to 5 degrees off the upstairs temperature, with 5 on the very hot days
    and 3 on the hot ones. Even the bedrooms at either end of the hall (an average-size townhouse, with my bedroom in the back and 2 smaller ones
    in the front) are cooler. Closing the bathroom and 3rd bedroom door
    also helps.

    So today, that is 7 days ago, I woudn't have turned the fan on except
    it's supposed to by 94 degrees, and I'll be back home at 1 or 2, with
    the hottest part of the day still coming.

    So I left it running even though it might overheat and start a fire. Was
    that wise? (This launcry chute fan is only 4 years old and only used 20
    or 30 days a year for 8 hours.)

    So I get back at 2, open the front door and hear buzzing. OMgosh, it's
    the smoke alarm!!!!! (the hardwired alarm in the ceiling of the upstairs
    hall, that came with the house!!!!!). My worst fears have come true.... although I don't smell smoke.

    I go upstairs and the fan is still spinning, the air is still blowing,
    and I still don't smell smoke or burning, even when I put my nose next
    to the fan..

    Now the smoke alarm had gone off maybe a dozen times in the last 41
    years, mostly when I overheat oil or fat in a skillet or broiler. (I no
    longer put the skillet's electric burner on maximum, so that problem is solved.) In fact I can't remember any other time. And it's loud. When
    I've gone upstairs to wave a newspaper and spread out the smoke to stop
    the fan, it's loud. But today it appears to have gotten louder, much
    louder after a while (who knows how long?).

    I could barely stand it, but I stiillhad to use the computer at the end
    of the 2nd floor hall to ask, Which breaker controls the hard-wired
    smoke alarm? There was no time to ask you guys. Do you know the
    answer?

    The answer is what I thought: There is no special breaker for the smoke
    alarm, whatever the electrician wants.

    So I get a 3-step ladder and try to remove the smoke alarm. I did this
    once, but that was 40 years ago and now it won't come down. The noise
    is even louder when I'm next to it. Pressing something makes it stop
    but for less than 2 seconds.

    Finally I force it down from the ceiling at one end, and it's silent.

    And there still is no sign of fire or smoke.


    How did the smoke alarm, after 41 years of working well, choose to break
    on the one day in 41 years that I left the house with a fan on. How
    does it know these things, and what did I do to it that it wants to
    torment me?

    Is it an amazing coincidence, or are there demons that arrange these
    things? That knew I left the fan on even though I was worried about it?

    I wonder if that TV show could use this as a plot!

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 14 07:55:43 2024
    Am 14.07.24 um 02:14 schrieb micky:
    I left the house at 7AM this morning, 7 days ago, and the question was whether to leave the fan on or not.

    Why do you think such crap is on topic in an Android-group?

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    "Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 14 09:45:47 2024
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 14 11:52:00 2024
    Am 14.07.24 um 10:45 schrieb Ed Cryer:
    Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 14.07.24 um 02:14 schrieb micky:
    I left the house at 7AM this morning, 7 days ago, and the question was
    whether to leave the fan on or not.

    Why do you think such crap is on topic in an Android-group?


    I know various magazines that would publish this as an article; and pay decent money for it. (:-

    I strongly disagree: You will never find a review of a Porsche Turbo in
    a Better Homes & Garden. *LOL*.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com on Sun Jul 14 08:48:18 2024
    In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 13 Jul 2024 20:14:34 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

    I left the house at 7AM this morning, 7 days ago, and the question was >whether to leave the fan on or not.

    Darn, I posted to the wrong group, again. It has to do with the way
    Agent 5 works, that it seems it's one group but it's another. Probably
    too complicated to explain the details.

    Sorry.

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  • From s|b@21:1/5 to micky on Mon Jul 15 15:56:22 2024
    On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 08:48:18 -0400, micky wrote:

    Darn, I posted to the wrong group, again. It has to do with the way
    Agent 5 works, that it seems it's one group but it's another. Probably
    too complicated to explain the details.

    It's not Agent, it's PEBKAC.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 15 17:31:24 2024
    Am 15.07.24 um 15:56 schrieb s|b:
    On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 08:48:18 -0400, micky wrote:

    Darn, I posted to the wrong group, again. It has to do with the way
    Agent 5 works, that it seems it's one group but it's another. Probably
    too complicated to explain the details.

    It's not Agent, it's PEBKAC.

    +1

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