• SPF record for synchro.net BBS

    From Amessyroom@1:103/705 to All on Wed Aug 21 00:48:39 2024
    I seem to be unable to send mail through BBS to gmail?

    How can I setup a txt record to provide spf info for toolazy.synchro.net ?

    I've tried in ini file; but I'm not sure if that is correct method or not.

    txt = v=spf1 a mx ip4:185.111.156.130 -all

    This is what I have for toolazy.ddns.net and allowed me to sendmail to gmail.

    Appreciate any help.

    My MX is set to mail.synchro.net

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Amessyroom on Tue Aug 20 22:09:45 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Amessyroom to All on Wed Aug 21 2024 12:48 am

    I seem to be unable to send mail through BBS to gmail?

    How can I setup a txt record to provide spf info for toolazy.synchro.net ?

    I've tried in ini file; but I'm not sure if that is correct method or not.

    txt = v=spf1 a mx ip4:185.111.156.130 -all

    This is what I have for toolazy.ddns.net and allowed me to sendmail to gmail.

    Appreciate any help.

    My MX is set to mail.synchro.net

    Are you relaying outbound Internet mail through Vertrauen? If so, then an SPF TXT record of "v=spf1 mx a -all" is all that should be needed.

    This "txt: v=spf1 mx a -all" (without the quotes) would go in the [dyndns] section of your ctrl/modopts.ini file.

    Right now, your DNS record has the default TXT record (with your BBS name), so it appears you didn't put this key in the right section or the .ini file.
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  • From echicken@1:103/705 to Amessyroom on Wed Aug 21 01:20:02 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Amessyroom to All on Wed Aug 21 2024 00:48:39

    I seem to be unable to send mail through BBS to gmail?

    Are you relaying outbound through Vertrauen?

    https://wiki.synchro.net/howto:relay_smtp

    How can I setup a txt record to provide spf info for toolazy.synchro.net ? txt = v=spf1 a mx ip4:185.111.156.130 -all

    I think you want that line to look like this:

    txt = v=spf1 mx a -all

    Or maybe this:

    txt:"v=spf1 mx a -all"

    And altogether your dyndns config would probably be:

    [dyndns]
    txt = v=spf1 mx a -all
    mx = mail.synchro.net

    https://wiki.synchro.net/module:dyndns

    echicken
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  • From Granville Errol Casey, Jr to echicken on Wed Aug 21 02:00:20 2024

    I've made the change and forced dnydns event. Hopefully it will update. Thanks
  • From Amessyroom@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Wed Aug 21 08:38:53 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Digital Man to Amessyroom on Tue Aug 20 2024 10:09 pm

    Are you relaying outbound Internet mail through Vertrauen? If so, then an SPF TXT record of "v=spf1 mx a -all" is all that should be needed.

    This "txt: v=spf1 mx a -all" (without the quotes) would go in the [dyndns] section of your ctrl/modopts.ini file.

    Right now, your DNS record has the default TXT record (with your BBS name), so it appears you didn't put this key in the right section or the .ini file. --
    digital man (rob)
    I've updated the ini, and triggered DYNDNS. Woke up to mxtoolbox showing spf record in place. When I sent to my gmail , I still get a delivery error :-(

    host -t txt toolazy.synchro.net
    toolazy.synchro.net descriptive text "v=spf1 mx a -all"

    [dyndns]
    mx = mail.synchro.net
    txt = v=spf1 mx a -all

    Could it just need more time ?

    toolazy.synchro.net reporting delivery failure of message ?
    from Amessyroom to errol.casey@gmail.com ?
    ?
    Reason: ?
    gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com replied with: ?
    "550 5.7.26 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126#authentication ?
    d75a77b69052e-4536a0a5a64si146772301cf.550 - gsmtp" ?
    instead of the expected reply: ?
    "250 ..." ?
    ?
    Original message text follows: ?
    ?
    spf record in place

    Aug 21 08:21:39 vmi1943160 synchronet[158521]: mail 0117 SEND connecting to port 25 on gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [142.251.167.26]
    Aug 21 08:29:41 vmi1943160 synchronet[158521]: mail 0133 SEND connecting to port 25 on gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [142.251.167.27]
    Aug 21 08:29:43 vmi1943160 synchronet[158521]: mail 0133 SEND/TLS !INVALID RESPONSE: '550 5.7.26 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126#authentication d75a77b69052e-4536a0a5a64si146772301cf.550 - gsmtp' Expected: '250'
    Aug 21 08:29:43 vmi1943160 synchronet[158521]: mail 0133 SEND !Delivery attempt #1 FAILED (gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com replied with: "550 5.7.26 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126#authentication d75a77b69052e-4536a0a5a64si146772301cf.550 - gsmtp" instead of the expected reply: "250 ...") for message #2178 from Amessyroom to errol.casey@gmail.com

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  • From Amessyroom@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Wed Aug 21 12:15:50 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Amessyroom to Digital Man on Wed Aug 21 2024 08:38 am

    host -t txt toolazy.synchro.net
    toolazy.synchro.net descriptive text "v=spf1 mx a -all"

    [dyndns]
    mx = mail.synchro.net
    txt = v=spf1 mx a -all

    Could it just need more time ?
    seems to be finally allowing mail again :-)

    so guess it just takes time

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Amessyroom on Wed Aug 21 10:15:08 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Amessyroom to Digital Man on Wed Aug 21 2024 08:38 am

    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Digital Man to Amessyroom on Tue Aug 20 2024 10:09 pm

    Are you relaying outbound Internet mail through Vertrauen? If so, then an SPF TXT record of "v=spf1 mx a -all" is all that should be needed.

    This "txt: v=spf1 mx a -all" (without the quotes) would go in the [dyndns] section of your ctrl/modopts.ini file.

    Right now, your DNS record has the default TXT record (with your BBS name), so it appears you didn't put this key in the right section or the .ini file. --
    digital man (rob)
    I've updated the ini, and triggered DYNDNS. Woke up to mxtoolbox showing spf record in place. When I sent to my gmail , I still get a delivery error :-(

    host -t txt toolazy.synchro.net
    toolazy.synchro.net descriptive text "v=spf1 mx a -all"

    [dyndns]
    mx = mail.synchro.net
    txt = v=spf1 mx a -all

    Could it just need more time ?

    toolazy.synchro.net reporting delivery failure of message
    ?
    from Amessyroom to errol.casey@gmail.com
    ?

    ?
    Reason:
    ?
    gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com replied with:
    ?
    "550 5.7.26 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126#authentication
    ?
    d75a77b69052e-4536a0a5a64si146772301cf.550 - gsmtp"
    ?
    instead of the expected reply:
    ?
    "250 ..."
    ?

    ?
    Original message text follows:
    ?

    ?
    spf record in place

    Aug 21 08:21:39 vmi1943160 synchronet[158521]: mail 0117 SEND connecting to port 25 on gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [142.251.167.26]
    Aug 21 08:29:41 vmi1943160 synchronet[158521]: mail 0133 SEND connecting to port 25 on gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [142.251.167.27]
    Aug 21 08:29:43 vmi1943160 synchronet[158521]: mail 0133 SEND/TLS !INVALID RESPONSE: '550 5.7.26 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126#authentication d75a77b69052e-4536a0a5a64si146772301cf.550 - gsmtp' Expected: '250'
    Aug 21 08:29:43 vmi1943160 synchronet[158521]: mail 0133 SEND !Delivery attempt #1 FAILED (gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com replied with: "550 5.7.26 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126#authentication d75a77b69052e-4536a0a5a64si146772301cf.550 - gsmtp" instead of the expected reply: "250 ...") for message #2178 from Amessyroom to errol.casey@gmail.com

    According to all this, your mail server is configured to send direct. So therefore, you SPF record is incorrect. You're not sending from the same server as your MX (mail.synchro.net), you're sending from some other host. So you'll need to fix your SPF record to correctly represent the mail-sending host.
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Amessyroom on Wed Aug 21 10:16:48 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Amessyroom to Digital Man on Wed Aug 21 2024 12:15 pm

    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Amessyroom to Digital Man on Wed Aug 21 2024 08:38 am

    host -t txt toolazy.synchro.net
    toolazy.synchro.net descriptive text "v=spf1 mx a -all"

    [dyndns]
    mx = mail.synchro.net
    txt = v=spf1 mx a -all

    Could it just need more time ?
    seems to be finally allowing mail again :-)

    so guess it just takes time

    No, there's something else at play here. The SPF record above says that mail for toolazy.synchro.net is sent *from* the same host as its mail exchange (MX) record, which is mail.synchro.net in your case. That is incorrect. Based on the logs you shared previously, your mail server is attempting to send direct, not relay through Vertrauen.
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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Wed Aug 21 10:08:59 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Digital Man to Amessyroom on Tue Aug 20 2024 10:09 pm

    I seem to be unable to send mail through BBS to gmail?

    Are you relaying outbound Internet mail through Vertrauen? If so, then an SPF TXT record of "v=spf1 mx a -all" is all that should be needed.

    This "txt: v=spf1 mx a -all" (without the quotes) would go in the [dyndns] section of your ctrl/modopts.ini file.

    I've done this, but I'm still unable to send email to gmail accounts from my BBS. I've been having this issue for a while now. As far as I can tell, I've added the proper SPF record. I still get delivery failure responses, and I'm not sure why.

    Nightfox

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  • From Granville Errol Casey, Jr to Digital Man on Wed Aug 21 13:29:21 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Digital Man to Amessyroom on Wed Aug 21 2024 10:16 am

    No, there's something else at play here. The SPF record above says that mail for toolazy.synchro.net is sent *from* the same host as its mail exchange (MX) record, which is mail.synchro.net in your case. That is incorrect. Based on the logs you shared previously, your mail server is attempting to send direct, not relay through Vertrauen.
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    digital man (rob)

    I have server set to direct because, initially I was using the ddns.net domain rather than synchro.net my mistake.

    So I assume I change it to relay, point it to mail.synchro.net like MX is
    set.

    But what port 25/587, and authentication setting do I use in the mail server setting.

    That explains why things are so flaky. Created my own problem. Awesome. :-(
  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Wed Aug 21 10:28:37 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Wed Aug 21 2024 10:08 am

    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Digital Man to Amessyroom on Tue Aug 20 2024 10:09 pm

    I seem to be unable to send mail through BBS to gmail?

    Are you relaying outbound Internet mail through Vertrauen? If so, then an SPF TXT record of "v=spf1 mx a -all" is all that should be needed.

    This "txt: v=spf1 mx a -all" (without the quotes) would go in the [dyndns] section of your ctrl/modopts.ini file.

    I've done this, but I'm still unable to send email to gmail accounts from my BBS. I've been having this issue for a while now. As far as I can tell, I've added the proper SPF record. I still get delivery failure responses, and I'm not sure why.

    What domain name is your mail "from"? What host is connecting to google to deliver the mail? These are the elements that determine what the proper contents of the SPF record should be for the domain name in the sender's email address.
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    digital man (rob)

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Granville Errol Casey, Jr on Wed Aug 21 11:17:53 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Granville Errol Casey, Jr to Digital Man on Wed Aug 21 2024 01:29 pm

    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Digital Man to Amessyroom on Wed Aug 21 2024 10:16 am

    No, there's something else at play here. The SPF record above says that mail for toolazy.synchro.net is sent *from* the same host as its mail exchange (MX) record, which is mail.synchro.net in your case. That is incorrect. Based on the logs you shared previously, your mail server is attempting to send direct, not relay through Vertrauen.
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    digital man (rob)

    I have server set to direct because, initially I was using the ddns.net domain rather than synchro.net my mistake.

    So I assume I change it to relay, point it to mail.synchro.net like MX is set.

    Yes.

    But what port 25/587, and authentication setting do I use in the mail server setting.

    Either port. The authentiation details (username, password) would be those for your QWKnet account on Vertrauen.
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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Wed Aug 21 12:30:28 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Aug 21 2024 10:28 am

    What domain name is your mail "from"? What host is connecting to google to deliver the mail? These are the elements that determine what the proper contents of the SPF record should be for the domain name in the sender's email address.

    Initially it was digitaldistortionbbs.com. I tried changing my system address to digdist.synchro.net (via SCFG) and sent another email to my gmail account, but that didn't work either (I got another response saying the delivery failed).

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Wed Aug 21 13:17:30 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Wed Aug 21 2024 12:30 pm

    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Aug 21 2024 10:28 am

    What domain name is your mail "from"? What host is connecting to google to deliver the mail? These are the elements that determine what the proper contents of the SPF record should be for the domain name in the sender's email address.

    Initially it was digitaldistortionbbs.com. I tried changing my system address to digdist.synchro.net (via SCFG) and sent another email to my gmail account, but that didn't work either (I got another response saying the delivery failed).

    digdist.synchro.net doesn't have an SPF record:
    $ host -t txt digdist.synchro.net
    digdist.synchro.net descriptive text "Digital Distortion"
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    digital man (rob)

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Wed Aug 21 16:28:39 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Aug 21 2024 01:17 pm

    digdist.synchro.net doesn't have an SPF record: $ host -t txt digdist.synchro.net
    digdist.synchro.net descriptive text "Digital Distortion"

    I added a configuration in my modopts.ini to set the SPF record, but I mistyped the section name in modopts.ini. After correcting it, it looks like digdist.synchro.net has that SPF record now, and I was able to successfully send an email to my Gmail address. It doesn't work from digitaldistortionbbs.com, but it works using digdist.synchro.net, so I'll leave that in my Synchronet configuration.

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Wed Aug 21 17:06:03 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Wed Aug 21 2024 04:28 pm

    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Aug 21 2024 01:17 pm

    digdist.synchro.net doesn't have an SPF record: $ host -t txt digdist.synchro.net
    digdist.synchro.net descriptive text "Digital Distortion"

    I added a configuration in my modopts.ini to set the SPF record, but I mistyped the section name in modopts.ini. After correcting it, it looks like digdist.synchro.net has that SPF record now, and I was able to successfully send an email to my Gmail address. It doesn't work from digitaldistortionbbs.com, but it works using digdist.synchro.net, so I'll leave that in my Synchronet configuration.

    If you set the MX record for digitaldistortionbbs.com to mail.synchro.net, then the same SPF record would work for it too (if that's the doain you prefer to send from).
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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Thu Aug 22 10:17:32 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Aug 21 2024 05:06 pm

    If you set the MX record for digitaldistortionbbs.com to mail.synchro.net, then the same SPF record would work for it too (if that's the doain you prefer to send from).

    I updated the MX record for digitaldistortionbbs.com and tried to send an email to my gmail address, but it seems that isn't working.. I didn't get the email, and I got a response saying the delivery failed.

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Thu Aug 22 10:50:43 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Thu Aug 22 2024 10:17 am

    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Aug 21 2024 05:06 pm

    If you set the MX record for digitaldistortionbbs.com to mail.synchro.net, then the same SPF record would work for it too (if that's the doain you prefer to send from).

    I updated the MX record for digitaldistortionbbs.com and tried to send an email to my gmail address, but it seems that isn't working.. I didn't get the email, and I got a response saying the delivery failed.

    The sent mail message was from "user@digitaldistortionbbs.com" and was relayed through Vertrauen?
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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Thu Aug 22 11:14:51 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Thu Aug 22 2024 10:50 am

    I updated the MX record for digitaldistortionbbs.com and tried to send an
    email to my gmail address, but it seems that isn't working.. I didn't get
    the email, and I got a response saying the delivery failed.

    The sent mail message was from "user@digitaldistortionbbs.com" and was relayed through Vertrauen?

    Yes, it was sent from me (nightfox@digitaldistortionbbs.com), and I do have my BBS set to relay through Vertrauen.

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Thu Aug 22 13:24:45 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Thu Aug 22 2024 11:14 am

    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Thu Aug 22 2024 10:50 am

    I updated the MX record for digitaldistortionbbs.com and tried to send an
    email to my gmail address, but it seems that isn't working.. I didn't get
    the email, and I got a response saying the delivery failed.

    The sent mail message was from "user@digitaldistortionbbs.com" and was relayed through Vertrauen?

    Yes, it was sent from me (nightfox@digitaldistortionbbs.com), and I do have my BBS set to relay through Vertrauen.

    Maybe it'll just a take a little extra time for DNS caches to flush? Seems it should work the same as mail from user@digdist.synchro.net.
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    digital man (rob)

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Thu Aug 22 17:04:32 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Thu Aug 22 2024 01:24 pm

    Yes, it was sent from me (nightfox@digitaldistortionbbs.com), and I do have
    my BBS set to relay through Vertrauen.

    Maybe it'll just a take a little extra time for DNS caches to flush? Seems it should work the same as mail from user@digdist.synchro.net.

    I tried it again from digitaldistortionbbs.com, and it worked. So it seems it did just need some time.

    Nightfox

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  • From Rixter@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Thu Aug 22 18:39:05 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Thu Aug 22 2024 11:14 am

    Maybe it'll just a take a little extra time for DNS caches to flush? Seems it should work the same as mail from user@digdist.synchro.net.
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    digital man (rob)

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    Norco, CA WX: 87.0�F, 39.0% humidity, 9 mph W wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs ---
    � Synchronet � Vertrauen � Home of Synchronet � [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net


    I can receive mail perfectly TO the BBS but when I send mail OUT it never shows up to the recipient. I get a message that the message # was sent successfully but I also see a warning in the log that send/tls (mail.synchro.net) warning 'Bad/unrecognized data format' (-32) setting session active. under relay tab i have sign in checked and I am using mail.synchro.net port 587 . What setting am I missing? Thanks.

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Ricks BBS - RICKSBBS.SYNCHRO.NET
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Rixter on Thu Aug 22 20:06:35 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Rixter to Digital Man on Thu Aug 22 2024 06:39 pm

    I can receive mail perfectly TO the BBS but when I send mail OUT it never shows up to the recipient. I get a message that the message # was sent successfully but I also see a warning in the log that send/tls (mail.synchro.net) warning 'Bad/unrecognized data format' (-32) setting session active.

    You can ignore that warning.

    under relay tab i have sign in checked and I am using
    mail.synchro.net port 587 . What setting am I missing? Thanks.

    Maybe nothing. Try sending to a different email address/domain.
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #2:
    Synchronet version 2 for DOS and OS/2 was released to the public domain in 1997 Norco, CA WX: 73.6°F, 59.0% humidity, 8 mph WNW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs --- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Rixter@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Fri Aug 23 10:03:57 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Rixter to Digital Man on Thu Aug 22 2024 06:39 pm

    You can ignore that warning.

    Maybe nothing. Try sending to a different email address/domain.
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #2:
    Synchronet version 2 for DOS and OS/2 was released to the public domain in 1997 Norco, CA WX: 73.6�F, 59.0% humidity, 8 mph WNW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs ---
    � Synchronet � Vertrauen � Home of Synchronet � [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net


    my two test messages that the BBS said were sent successfully came back to the BBS with this message this morning

    Reason:
    gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com replied with:
    "550 5.7.26 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126#authentication 98e67ed59e1d1-2d5eba2055dsi4836699a91.65 - gsmtp"
    instead of the expected reply:
    "250 ..."

    it took a while but they finally came back undeliverable. The BBS said they were sent successfully but I think Gmail is refusing them? Trying to understand mail transfer messages. It is ok if i cannot get the BBS to send out messages, but it would be nice to be able to reply to mail sent to my ricksbbs.synchro.net email account. I will keep reading help pages.

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Ricks BBS - RICKSBBS.SYNCHRO.NET
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Fri Aug 23 09:51:37 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Thu Aug 22 2024 01:24 pm

    Maybe it'll just a take a little extra time for DNS caches to flush? Seems it should work the same as mail from user@digdist.synchro.net.

    Although I'm able to send email to Gmail addresses now, I'm now having basically the reverse problem where emails sent to my BBS are failing to be delivered. I tried sending an email to my BBS email address (both nightfox@digitaldistortionbbs.com and nightfox@digdgist.synchro.net) and both failed, with error 553 (Relaying through this sserver requires authentication). Are incoming emails also going through mail.synchro.net and requiring authentication there?

    Nightfox

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Rixter on Fri Aug 23 14:09:54 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Rixter to Digital Man on Fri Aug 23 2024 10:03 am

    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Rixter to Digital Man on Thu Aug 22 2024 06:39 pm

    You can ignore that warning.

    Maybe nothing. Try sending to a different email address/domain.
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #2:
    Synchronet version 2 for DOS and OS/2 was released to the public domain in 1997 Norco, CA WX: 73.6¿F, 59.0% humidity, 8 mph WNW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs ---
    ¿ Synchronet ¿ Vertrauen ¿ Home of Synchronet ¿ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net


    my two test messages that the BBS said were sent successfully came back to the BBS with this message this morning

    Reason:
    gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com replied with:
    "550 5.7.26 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126#authentication 98e67ed59e1d1-2d5eba2055dsi4836699a91.65 - gsmtp"
    instead of the expected reply:
    "250 ..."

    it took a while but they finally came back undeliverable. The BBS said they were sent successfully but I think Gmail is refusing them? Trying to understand mail transfer messages. It is ok if i cannot get the BBS to send out messages, but it would be nice to be able to reply to mail sent to my ricksbbs.synchro.net email account. I will keep reading help pages.

    $ host -t txt ricksbbs.synchro.net
    ricksbbs.synchro.net descriptive text "v=spf1 mx a -all"

    $ host -t mx ricksbbs.synchro.net
    ricksbbs.synchro.net mail is handled by 0 mail.synchro.net.

    This means the mail has to sent via mail.synchro.net, but when I look at my mail sever log, I don't see any relayed mail from ricksbbs.synchro.net. Are you sure your sendmail thread is configured to relay through Vertrauen?
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #27:
    DTE = Data Terminal Equipment
    Norco, CA WX: 81.9°F, 43.0% humidity, 8 mph W wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
    --- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Fri Aug 23 14:13:55 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Aug 23 2024 09:51 am

    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Thu Aug 22 2024 01:24 pm

    Maybe it'll just a take a little extra time for DNS caches to flush? Seems it should work the same as mail from user@digdist.synchro.net.

    Although I'm able to send email to Gmail addresses now, I'm now having basically the reverse problem where emails sent to my BBS are failing to be delivered. I tried sending an email to my BBS email address (both nightfox@digitaldistortionbbs.com and nightfox@digdgist.synchro.net) and both failed, with error 553 (Relaying through this sserver requires authentication). Are incoming emails also going through mail.synchro.net and requiring authentication there?

    That's expected. You never asked me to set up mail exchange services for digdist.synchro.net or digitaldistortionbbs.com. If your domain's MX (mail exchange) record points to mail.synchro.net (that's Vertrauen), then I have to set up a forwarding rule for that domain.
    https://wiki.synchro.net/howto:vert_mx

    Assuming that's what you want, I've now added 2 forwarding rules to TCP port 587 for digdist.synchro.net and digitaldistortionbbs.com. That should allow you to then actually use Vertrauen as your domain's mail exchange.
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #65:
    Synchronet can dynamically compress and uncompress message bases (using LZH) Norco, CA WX: 82.6°F, 41.0% humidity, 4 mph W wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
    --- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Rixter@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Fri Aug 23 17:49:03 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Rixter to Digital Man on Fri Aug 23 2024 10:03 am

    $ host -t txt ricksbbs.synchro.net
    ricksbbs.synchro.net descriptive text "v=spf1 mx a -all"

    $ host -t mx ricksbbs.synchro.net
    ricksbbs.synchro.net mail is handled by 0 mail.synchro.net.

    This means the mail has to sent via mail.synchro.net, but when I look at my mail sever log, I don't see any relayed mail from ricksbbs.synchro.net. Are you sure your sendmail thread is configured to relay through Vertrauen?
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #27:
    DTE = Data Terminal Equipment
    Norco, CA WX: 81.9�F, 43.0% humidity, 8 mph W wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs ---
    � Synchronet � Vertrauen � Home of Synchronet � [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net


    Lol I am never certain of anything. I will double check. Thank you for looking at the response though. I will do some homework and get back to you. Have a great weekend Rob!

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Ricks BBS - RICKSBBS.SYNCHRO.NET
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Fri Aug 23 19:26:53 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Fri Aug 23 2024 02:13 pm

    Although I'm able to send email to Gmail addresses now, I'm now having
    basically the reverse problem where emails sent to my BBS are failing to be
    delivered. I tried sending an email to my BBS email address (both
    nightfox@digitaldistortionbbs.com and nightfox@digdgist.synchro.net) and
    both failed, with error 553 (Relaying through this sserver requires
    authentication). Are incoming emails also going through mail.synchro.net
    and requiring authentication there?

    That's expected. You never asked me to set up mail exchange services for digdist.synchro.net or digitaldistortionbbs.com. If your domain's MX (mail exchange) record points to mail.synchro.net (that's Vertrauen), then I have to set up a forwarding rule for that domain. https://wiki.synchro.net/howto:vert_mx

    Assuming that's what you want, I've now added 2 forwarding rules to TCP port 587 for digdist.synchro.net and digitaldistortionbbs.com. That should allow you to then actually use Vertrauen as your domain's mail exchange.

    Ah, it has been a while since I looked at that page on the wiki, and I'd forgotten that step. Thanks for adding the forwarding rules.

    I have port 587 set up in my router to forward to my BBS PC.

    A few hours ago, I tried sending a couple emails from my gmail account to myself on my BBS at nightfox@digitaldistortionbbs.com and nightfox@digdist.synchro.net, but so far I have not received either. I received one email at my gmail address that the delivery to nightfox@digdist.synchro.net was rejected:

    vert.synchro.net reporting delivery failure of message after 51 attempts
    from Eric Oulashin to nightfox@digdist.synchro.net:587

    Reason:
    digdist.synchro.net replied with:
    ""
    instead of the expected reply:
    "220 ..."


    I haven't received any emails of delivery failure for nightfox@digitaldistortionbbs, even though I haven't received that email yet.

    Nightfox

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Fri Aug 23 20:03:44 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Aug 23 2024 07:26 pm

    A few hours ago, I tried sending a couple emails from my gmail account to myself on my BBS at nightfox@digitaldistortionbbs.com and nightfox@digdist.synchro.net, but so far I have not received either. I received one email at my gmail address that the delivery to nightfox@digdist.synchro.net was rejected:

    vert.synchro.net reporting delivery failure of message after 51 attempts from Eric Oulashin to nightfox@digdist.synchro.net:587

    Reason:
    digdist.synchro.net replied with:
    ""
    instead of the expected reply:
    "220 ..."


    I haven't received any emails of delivery failure for nightfox@digitaldistortionbbs, even though I haven't received that email yet.

    $ nc digdist.synchro.net 587
    Ncat: TIMEOUT.

    Something's wrong on your end.
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Sling Blade quote #1:
    Karl: I've killed Doyle with a lawn mower blade. Yes, I'm right sure of it. Norco, CA WX: 69.3°F, 70.0% humidity, 6 mph W wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
    --- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Fri Aug 23 23:23:10 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Fri Aug 23 2024 08:03 pm

    $ nc digdist.synchro.net 587
    Ncat: TIMEOUT.

    Something's wrong on your end.

    I realized I hadn't allowed port 587 in the Linux software firewall (UFW). I added 587 there and now it appears to be receiving email successfully.

    Nightfox

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sat Aug 24 09:13:30 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Aug 23 2024 11:23 pm

    I realized I hadn't allowed port 587 in the Linux software firewall (UFW). I added 587 there and now it appears to be receiving email successfully.

    I had tried sending an email to myself both at digitaldistortionbbs.com and digdist.synchro.net. The one to digitaldistortionbbs.com came through, but the one to digdist.synchro.net failed, with error 550 (relay not allowed). I think that probably makes sense though, as I currently have Synchronet configured to use digitaldistortionbbs.com.

    Nightfox

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Denn@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Sat Aug 24 12:26:45 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Aug 23 2024 11:23 pm

    Something's wrong on your end.

    I realized I hadn't allowed port 587 in the Linux software firewall (UFW). I added 587 there and now it appears to be receiving email successfully.

    That would do it :)
    I run several Linux servers, UFW is my favorite firewall.

    ... MODEM: Monumentally Expensive Data Eating Machine.

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    ■ Synchronet ■ the Outwest BBS - outwestbbs.com or outwest.synchro.net
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Sat Aug 24 14:44:46 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Sat Aug 24 2024 09:13 am

    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Aug 23 2024 11:23 pm

    I realized I hadn't allowed port 587 in the Linux software firewall (UFW). I added 587 there and now it appears to be receiving email successfully.

    I had tried sending an email to myself both at digitaldistortionbbs.com and digdist.synchro.net. The one to digitaldistortionbbs.com came through, but the one to digdist.synchro.net failed, with error 550 (relay not allowed). I think that probably makes sense though, as I currently have Synchronet configured to use digitaldistortionbbs.com.

    You can add additional domains for your BBS to receive mail for to your ctrl/domains.cfg file.
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Sling Blade quote #10:
    Morris: I stand on the hill, not for thrill, but for the breath of a fresh kill Norco, CA WX: 80.2°F, 52.0% humidity, 8 mph WNW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs --- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sat Aug 24 15:31:02 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sat Aug 24 2024 02:44 pm

    You can add additional domains for your BBS to receive mail for to your ctrl/domains.cfg file.

    Ah, cool, thanks.

    Nightfox

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Rixter@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Tue Aug 27 18:58:39 2024
    Lol I am never certain of anything. I will double check. Thank you for looking at the response though. I will do some homework and get back to you. Have a great weekend Rob!


    Good evening! I am still stuck on the relay mail server issue. BBS receives legitimate email to valid users just fine, but I cannot send email out from the BBS. I have the relay tab set to mail.synchro.net on port 587 with plain authentication checked my qwk credentials entered. On the SMTP tab I have tcp25 tls465 submission port 587 enabled and allow authentication by telnet and pop3 checked. Still a no go on sending mail out from the BBS. It received email in to valid users just fine. I am still stuck on this. I hope everyone is fine and having a great night.

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    ■ Synchronet ■ Ricks BBS - RICKSBBS.SYNCHRO.NET
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Rixter on Wed Aug 28 21:56:21 2024
    Re: SPF record for synchro.net BBS
    By: Rixter to Digital Man on Tue Aug 27 2024 06:58 pm

    Lol I am never certain of anything. I will double check. Thank you for looking at the response though. I will do some homework and get back to you. Have a great weekend Rob!


    Good evening! I am still stuck on the relay mail server issue. BBS receives legitimate email to valid users just fine, but I cannot send email out from the BBS. I have the relay tab set to mail.synchro.net on port 587 with plain authentication checked my qwk credentials entered. On the SMTP tab I have tcp25 tls465 submission port 587 enabled and allow authentication by telnet and pop3 checked. Still a no go on sending mail out from the BBS. It received email in to valid users just fine. I am still stuck on this. I hope everyone is fine and having a great night.

    "No go" in what way? You reeive an error message or log messages you can share? Are you only having problems sending to gmail addresses, or any/all email domains?
    --
    digital man (rob)

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #46:
    "Not an Exit" - we don't want an exit. Well that's true.
    Norco, CA WX: 66.2°F, 79.0% humidity, 3 mph WNW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs --- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)